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– Gold versus the S&P 500 from 2000-2014: Why we still recommend dollar-cost averaging ounces (Marc Faber seems to be doing as much)…

– Then, Dr. Faber and Dr. Ron Paul lend over 80 years of gold market experience to explain why you shouldn’t worry about gold’s low price or its weak response to QE the past two years…

– Then, Dr. Faber goes on to explain why the risk in the U.S. stock market far outweighs the potential reward, even if the S&P 500 soars by 30%…

“Personally,” wrote Faber in this month’s Gloom Boom & Doom Report, “I shall use the current renewed weakness in the price of gold and other precious metals as an opportunity to add to my positions in order to maintain my approximately 25% weighting (ideally, at below $1,280 per ounce).”

“But… but…” we hear you stammering.

What about raising rates? Won’t the price of gold fall if the Fed starts to tighten monetary policy?

And what of money printing and geopolitical risk? Both have escalated, yet gold’s barely reacted. What gives?

OK, OK. One at a time… starting with rising rates.

If the Fed raises rates (and that’s a big “if”), it doesn’t necessarily spell lower gold prices. Look at this chart, courtesy of our friends at DailyWealth this morning. Based on 40 years of data they showed that, over history, gold gained 20% a year before rates rise:

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Judging by those numbers, you should consider buying gold before the Fed raises rates.

As for the correlation between gold prices and the Fed’s quantitative easing the last three years… here’s how our former employer Ron Paul put it last week in a CNBC interview:

If you understand the subjective theory of value, you don’t get too concerned about that, because, yes, increasing the money supply weakens the dollar, and a weaker dollar raises the price of gold and it’s a long-term measurement. But you can’t measure it by saying, ‘The money supply went up a certain amount, so gold’s going to go up a certain amount.’

“There’s a subjective element… But long term, economic law says that if you keep printing a lot of paper money, the value of that dollar or currency will go down, and things, most prices, will go up. And indeed, gold always goes up… But I don’t get into the business of saying in a year or two or three, it’s going to be $2,000 or $3,000 or $4,000.

Perspective is everything, explained Dr. Paul leveraging at least 4½ decades of experience in the gold market. “I remember watching gold when it was $35 an ounce, and we thought that if it ever hit $100, the world would come to an end.” Heh. Imagine what he would’ve thought in 1970 if he heard today’s price of $1,285, let alone that it peaked in 2011 at $1,921. Or that the Fed’s balance sheet stands at $4.5 trillion…

“As long as we continue to do this,” Dr. Paul concluded, “[gold] could go to infinity, because if people just leave the dollar, who knows what…”

Then, as Dr. Faber explains in today’s featured essay, “the only ‘cash’ that would still have the quality of being a ‘store of value’ would be precious metals.” In today’s episode, Dr. Faber arrives at that conclusion via an explanation of why risk outweighs reward in the U.S. stock market. 

We strongly encourage you to read on for his full analysis “U.S. Stocks’ Risks Outweigh Their Future Return” below…

Further Reading: Dr. Faber himself is still accumulating gold at the current price of $1,285. If you’d like to do the same, we highly recommend you first read The Quickest, Easiest Way to Store Your Wealth Overseas by our founder, Addison Wiggin, on the DR’s website. It will show you our preferred method for buying and storing gold. It takes just five minutes to read.

 

U.S. Stocks’ Risks Outweigh Their Future Return

by Dr. Marc Faber

In the late 1990s, just ahead of the bursting of the NASDAQ bubble, I reproduced, courtesy of the late Peter Bernstein (author of Against the Gods), a table showing how many quarters of previous capital appreciation were given back in the 12 largest US bear markets since 1929.

In the meantime, we have had another three bear markets and I have updated his table to reflect the new data. (Bernstein used Dow Jones data, and I used S&P 500 data for the period since 1998.)

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As can be seen in the table , on average, bear markets gave back 21 quarters, or a little more than five years, of previous capital gains, while the worst bear market (1929-1932) gave back over 15 years of previous gains.

The second-worst bear market was the slump ending in March 2009, which gave back 12 years (48 quarters) of previous gains. I have now calculated by how many years of previous capital gains, and by how much the market would decline from the current level, were it to lose the same number of “quarters of price appreciation lost” as in each of the previous bear markets. In other words, and to make it simple:

Assuming the S&P 500 were to peak out now and lose the smallest number of previous “quarters of price appreciation lost” (four quarters in the bear market ending in 1998), it would drop to the level in the third quarter of 2013 (down 20%). 

Conversely, if the S&P index dropped from the current level by the average of quarters of price appreciation lost over the last 85 years (a little more than five years — or, to be precise, by 21 quarters), it would decline to the level it stood at in the second quarter of 2009. (In such a case, the index would drop by 52%.)

But this is not so relevant, since everyone seems to be convinced that the US stock market will keep on rising. Therefore, let us also be bullish and assume that the S&P 500 will soar by 30% to 2,570 within a year and then retreat by 21 quarters of previous price gains (the average number of quarters of price appreciation lost since the bear market of 1929-1932). 

In this case, the S&P 500 would drop following its high, from 2,570 in the second quarter of 2015 to the second quarter of 2010, or to less than 1,200, a loss of 38% from the current level of 1967 for the S&P 500, and of more than 50% from the 2015 high at 2,570. However, not to worry.

When the world is mad, we need to be a little mad as well. So, let us all become academics and live in a glass palace in LaLa Land and let us be just as optimistic as Mrs. Yellen and adhere like the Fed to George Orwell’s principle that “political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible…. Thus political language consists largely of euphemism.”

And since we all also want to make the world a better place, we should assume that the S&P 500 will double from its current level to almost 4,000 over the next five years. If the S&P 500 were subsequently to decline by 21 quarters of previous price gains, we would be precisely a little lower than today’s level. (Remember, the 21 quarters would be the average of quarters of price appreciation lost over the last 85 years.)

I further need to point out that the stock market has become rather selective and that numerous “popular” stocks are already down meaningfully from their 12-month highs. My friend Christopher Hayes has compiled a table showing some of the carnage that has already occurred.

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So, whichever way I slice it, I believe that the risks of buying US stocks outweigh the potential of future returns. While it is correct that stocks may move higher, that doesn’t imply that they are attractive. 

Moreover, propelling stocks to around 4,000 for the S&P 500 would not require “a high degree of monetary policy accommodation” (Yellen), but rather a huge increase in the rate of asset purchases. Under this scenario, it is likely that the US dollar would collapse (as well as the US dollar bond market), creating a global systemic crisis from which the price of precious metals would benefit. 

I say this because a sharply declining dollar would force other central bankers around the world also to print massive amounts of money in order for their economies to stay competitive. Consequently, the only “cash” that would still have the quality of being a “store of value” would be precious metals.

Regards,

Marc Faber
for The Daily Reckoning

 

[Ed. note: In the past six months alone, many little-known mining plays have taken off — 53% on NovaGold (NG), 53% this year and 85% on Fortuna Silver (FVI:TSX), for example. The field was analyzed by the likes of Rick Rule, Doug Casey and our own Byron King at this years’ Sprott Vancouver Natural Resource Symposium. We just put the conference MP3s online if you’re interested in listening to them. Click here for access.]